Debate

Sunday, June 25, 2017

9:45 AM-10:45 AM
Debate 1
Cumbersome and Correct vs. Half-Baked and High-Speed

Fundamentals and Applications
203AB (Long Beach Convention)
Moderator: Nick Gangemi, Northern Air Systems
Presenters: James W. VanGilder, P.E., Schneider Electric , Mark Seymour, CEng, Future Facilities Ltd and Nick Gangemi, Northern Air Systems
Technical Committee: 9.9 Mission Critical Facilities, Data Centers, Technology Spaces and Electronic Equipment
CoSponsor: 4.10 Indoor Environmental Modeling
Data center CFD is routinely and effectively used for upfront design of new facilities and ongoing management of existing facilities. Are you an extreme perfectionist kind of modeler or do you go for quick and dirty? Two experienced data center and CFD professionals will argue the case for using the bare bones of CFD for maximum benefit in minimum time in contrast to all the physics (but all in good time). But who will argue which side? A coin toss will determine. Come to this session and make your own informed decision.

  Forms for VanGilder

James W. VanGilder, P.E., Schneider Electric

  Forms for Seymour

Mark Seymour, CEng, Future Facilities Ltd

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Nick Gangemi, Northern Air Systems

Monday, June 26, 2017

9:45 AM-10:45 AM
Debate 2
Commissioning Agents For Smart Buildings: Whose Side Am I On?

Commissioning: Optimizing New and Existing Buildings and their Operation
203AB (Long Beach Convention)
Moderator: Frank Shadpour, P.E., SC Engineers, Inc.
Presenters: Frank Shadpour, P.E., SC Engineers, Inc. , Barry Bridges, P.E., NV5 and George Rogers, RQ Construction
Technical Committee: 1.4 Control Theory and Application
Sponsor: HVAC Security TG2
CoSponsor: 7.5 Smart Building Systems
The commissioning agent's role is to ensure that the Owner's Project Requirements (OPR) are met; however, the commissioning agent (CxA) is frequently hired by the Contractor. The Owner’s goal is a high-performance building; the Contractor's goal is maintaining budget. Does this relationship pit the commissioning agent against the owner? This debate covers the benefits of commissioning from an Owner's perspective and a Contractor's perspective. Does the Owner get a high-performance building when the commissioning agent is hired by the Contractor or does an Owner-hired CxA guarantee better results? An Owner and Contractor debate lessons learned from commissioning smart building controls.

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Frank Shadpour, P.E., SC Engineers, Inc.

  Forms for Barry Bridges

Barry Bridges, P.E., NV5

  Forms for Rogers

George Rogers, RQ Construction

  Forms for Farrow

Daniel Farrow, Palomar Health

Tuesday, June 27, 2017

1:30 PM-3:00 PM
Debate 3
Fellow's Debate: There is No Purpose in a Code of Ethics

Fundamentals and Applications
203AB (Long Beach Convention)
Moderator: Larry Spielvogel, P.E., Consulting Engineer
Presenters: Samir Traboulsi, Dr.Ing., P.Eng., Thermotrade/Ranec , E. Mitchell Swann, P.E., MDCSystems , Kathleen Lacey, J.D., Ukleja Center for Ethical Leadership at California State University, Long Beach , Don Beaty, P.E., DLB Associates , William Murphy, Ph.D., P.E., University of Kentucky and Peter Simmonds, Ph.D., Building and Systems Analytics LLC
Technical Committee: 1.7 Business, Management & General Legal Education
Sponsor: College of Fellows (Primary sponsor)
Members sign up to the ASHRAE Code of Ethics, but do they apply them? A very small number of complaints are made.

  Forms for Murphy

William Murphy, University of Kentucky

  Forms for Traboulsi

Samir Traboulsi, Dr.Ing., P.Eng., Thermotrade/Ranec

  Forms for Swann

E. Mitchell Swann, P.E., MDCSystems

  Forms for Simmonds Fellows Debate

Peter Simmonds, Ph.D., Building and Systems Analytics LLC

  Forms for Lacey

Kathleen Lacey, J.D., Ukleja Center for Ethical Leadership at California State University, Long Beach

  Forms for Beaty

Don Beaty, P.E., DLB Associates

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Larry Spielvogel, P.E., Consulting Engineer

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